140* Octopus World: Other Minds with Peter Godfrey-Smith (EF, JP)

Peter Godfrey-Smith knows his cephalopods. His truly capacious career includes books such as Theory and Reality (2003; 2nd edition in 2020), Darwinian Populations and Natural Selection (2009)  Metazoa and most recently Living on Earth (John raves about that book here.)

Recall this Book, including two Brandeis undergraduates, Izzy Dupré and Miriam Fisch–spoke with Godfrey-Smith back in October 2021 about his astonishing book on the fundamental alterity of octopus intelligence and experience of the world, Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea and the Deep Origins of Consciousness. Another equally descriptive title for that book, and for the discussion we share with you here (after Thomas Nagel’s “What is it like to be a Bat?“) might be What is it Like to be an Octopus?

our first AI image, helpfully (?) generated by WordPress from the prompt “octopus using cellphone…”

As always, below you will find helpful links for the works referenced in the episode, and a transcript for those who prefer or require a print version of the conversation. Please visit us at Recallthisbook.org (or even subscribe there) if you are interested in helpful bonus items like related short original articles, reading lists, visual supplements and past episodes grouped into categories for easy browsing.

Mentioned in the Episode:

–Adrian Tchaikovsky, Children of Ruin

–“Open the pod bay doors, Hal”: a chilling line from 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

District Nine (2009, dir. Neill Bloomkamp) in which giant intelligent shrimp from outer space play the role of octopus-like alien intelligence, and prompt a complex but unmistakably racist reaction on their arrival in South Africa.

–Charles Darwin, The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals (1872)

–Erik Linklater, Pirates in the Deep Green Sea (1949)

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I teach English (mainly the novel and Victorian literature) at Brandeis University, and live in Brookline.

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