Not long after Maurizio Cattelan taped a banana to the wall, John and Elizabeth met with Silvia Bottinelli from the School of the Museum of Fine Arts to talk about food as art and art as food. Silvia is a Modern and Contemporary Art historian in the Visual and Material Studies Department at SMFA and her interests range from post-war Italian art to representations of the domestic and the uses of lead in art. We met to discuss the volume The Taste of Art: Cooking, Food and Counterculture in Contemporary Practices which she co-edited with Margherita d’Ayala Valva. The volume is a (forgive me) veritable buffet of delicate savories and sweetmeats and our conversation was similarly rich and far-reaching.
In our aesthetic and culinary wanderings, we talked about Dutch Vanitas Painting, apples
Yoko Ono’s Apple
Allan Kaprow, Apple Shrine
and how the seemingly mundane world of food, though its use in art, brings in the biggest questions about fleeting time, fame, value and the market, labor and consumption.
Mentioned in this episode:
Elizabeth Ferry, Minerals, Collecting and Value Across the US-Mexico Border
Maurizio Cattelan, Comedian
Ferran Adrià, Documenta 12
Filippo Tommaso Marinetti, The Futurist Cookbook
Stephanie Smith, Feast: Radical Hospitality in Contemporary Art
Phyllis Pray Bober, Art, Culture and Cuisine: Ancient and Medieval Gastronomy
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Spring season preview: Coming soon, a conversation with anthropologist Ajantha Subramanian about meritocracy and privilege in Indian and US education; an exploration of the long knotty history of self-help literature; and two episodes about ancient, medieval and modern conceptions of money, wealth and value. One is with noted ancient historian Peter (Through the Eye of a Needle) Brown, and the other is with Christine Desan, who wrote a stunning revisionary account of the governmental origins of the modern monetary system.
Finally, the newest Recall This Book: In Focus will return to science fiction, interviewing a noted American author with a special fondness for the fourth rock from the Sun.