In this installment of our Recall this Buck series, John and Elizabeth talk with Daniel Souleles, anthropologist at the Copenhagen Business School and author of Songs of Profit, Songs of Loss: Private Equity, Wealth, and Inequality (Lincoln : University of Nebraska Press 2019). Dan’s work explores the world of private equity “guys” (who are indeed mostly guys) and the ways they are “suspended in webs of significance [they themselves have] spun” as Clifford Geertz puts it.
Further, he explores the ways we are all suspended in these webs through the immense buying and managing power of private equity firms. Private equity investors buy out publicly traded companies, often through enormous debt (which is why these deals used to be called “leveraged buyouts” or LBOs), manage the companies and then sell them. They argue they are creating value by cutting fat in management; typically workers bear the brunt of the debt while executives–and the private equity firm and lawyers and others servicing the deal–receive hefty payments.
Dan pulls off a tough feat in his book, helping us see the concerns and motivations of people he’s working with as understandable and the people themselves as reasonable and even likeable, while also maintaining his own view of private equity as, generally speaking, a noxious force in society.
We end with a discussion of the Occupy movement and how it helped to change public conversations about inequality and the power of finance (another angle on the themes we tackled in our earlier “Brahmin Left” conversations).
Mentioned in this episode:
Karen Ho Liquidated; ethnography of Wall Street, and of “smartness”
Edwin Lefèvre, Reminiscences of a Stock Operator, (John misremembered the title as Confessions of a Stockjobber)
Bret Easton Ellis, American Psycho (1991)
Listen and Read here:
71 Jennifer Egan with Ivan Kreilkamp: Fiction as Streaming, Genre as Portal (Novel Dialogue crossover, JP) – Recall This Book
- 71 Jennifer Egan with Ivan Kreilkamp: Fiction as Streaming, Genre as Portal (Novel Dialogue crossover, JP)
- 70 Recall this Buck 5: "Studying Up" with Daniel Souleles (EF, JP)
- 69 Recall this Buck 4: Daniel Souleles on Private Equity (JP, EF)
- 68 Martin Puchner: Writing and Reading from Gilgamesh to Amazon
- 67 Everything and Less: Mark McGurl on Books in the Age of Amazon